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Posted by penbex Message # 1     Posted at August 7, 2009, 9:25 pm,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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I recently got a Neon MicroHiFi Internet Radio. It is a decent stand alone Internet radio player. However, there were some things that did not work out for me. So I started to do some research on the hardware/firmware side of it. I will post my finding here on the forum. If you have additional information do not hold back and post it in a comment or mail me at William.Jansen@gmx.net 

The following brands all appear to be based on the same hardware:
DMTech, Watson, ctiradio, Joybien, eradio, KW-1004, HipShing, Goodmans, Proline, Neon, ClasOhlson, Orchard, Yusan, Zylux, Logik, Sabre, MPMan, Uptoday, LA302, Olympia, Centrios, Amitech, Odys, Forworld2, Boom, VEGA, Pbirkit, IRM8001, Lafayette, DNT IPMicro, Akira, SL-D960, GP-60X, PBXBoom2-SI, Pbirkit2, Konig HAV-20/21/22

You can not load a firmware created for one model into the other model even though the hardware is the same. There are ways around this though.

If you are interested in getting a Penbex device, I suggest that you check out Akira

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Posted by beebrox Message # 2     Posted at January 4, 2010, 7:39 pm,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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regarding the picture I've got the same device labled as
WATSON CO1790MUI
Internet Radio

If you like further information, just let me know.

I've purchased that box today and I'm just trying to
figure out it's options (especially about homebrewing stuff)

[edit]
after connecting it to the internet
it upgraded to firmware version
F/W Ver: 1.0.3 uPVer: 0x25
OS Ver: KW-1004-1.0.3.62
and choosing the online-upgrade option
again it sticks to this release as most
actual (so no VER 2.xx)
[/edit]



regards


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Posted by SRDC Message # 3     Posted at February 28, 2010, 8:08 am,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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That looks identical to the Centrios Internet Radio that is sold by The Source by Circuit City in Canada.  Here's a product link:

link

I believe it's a Kenwin product, but it's not listed on their website anymore.

link

Some discussion here:

link


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Posted by penbex Message # 4     Posted at February 28, 2010, 11:32 am,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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>regarding the picture I've got the same device labled as
>WATSON CO1790MUI Internet Radio

>after connecting it to the internet it upgraded to firmware version
>F/W Ver: 1.0.3 uPVer: 0x25 OS Ver: KW-1004-1.0.3.62
Perfect, This means you can load an alternative firmware from here and have more options. New firmware will be available in the next hours.

Best Regards,

William

 
Posted by penbex Message # 5     Posted at February 28, 2010, 11:33 am,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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>That looks identical to the Centrios Internet Radio that is sold by The Source by Circuit City in >Canada.  Here's a product link:

Yes, as you can see at redflags I have posted there already about new firmwares.

Best Regards,

William

 
Posted by rumen65 Message # 6     Posted at April 11, 2010, 3:46 pm,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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I have the following device: WATSON CO1790MUI F/W Ver: 1.0.3 uPVer: 0x25

OS Ver: KW-1004-1.0.3.62 build 09/12/08-1744

 

What alternative firmware can I use? It doesn’t find any upgrades online. Also can I change the site sttion.penbex.com.tw with a different one like this one?

 

Also can I manually add new stations with, for example, an USB?


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Posted by penbex Message # 7     Posted at April 11, 2010, 9:41 pm,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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>What alternative firmware can I use? It doesn’t find any upgrades online. Also can I change the site >sttion.penbex.com.tw with a different one like this one?

kw-1004-1.0.3.67.zip

kw-1004-2.0.0.15.zip

Both of them will work in your radio. Download a firmware, put it on a USB stick and do the firmware upgrade from the menu. Once you have loaded one of these firmwaes, you are no longer using the penbex site but you will be using our site. (remember that you can always go back to the original Penbex firmware)

>Also can I manually add new stations with, for example, an USB?

There is no way to load new stations manually through USB or so..  However, you can add new stations on this website if its not already listed (we have like 3 times more than Penbex) and add them to "My favorites" to get them in a seperate section on your radio. Once its there you can also store it as one of the 10 favorite presets that the radio has.

Best Regards,

William


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Posted by rumen65 Message # 8     Posted at April 12, 2010, 6:06 pm,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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Thanks,
I’m testing kw-1004-2.0.0.15 and it’s working well. But I have a couple of questions.
How can I learn about the different things in the new firmware? The manual and datasheet sections aren’t working, only firmware. It says the files in them do not exist.  Also, I want to know about the kinds of errors. On many stations I get data process error 11.


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Posted by penbex Message # 9     Posted at April 12, 2010, 8:26 pm,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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Quote:
Thanks,
I’m testing kw-1004-2.0.0.15 and it’s working well. But I have a couple of questions.
How can I learn about the different things in the new firmware? The manual and datasheet sections aren’t working, only firmware. It says the files in them do not exist.  Also, I want to know about the kinds of errors. On many stations I get data process error 11.

Hi,

Thanks for your remarks.

The manual/datasheet page was broken. I have fixed that.

Regarding the errors, I am working on this. But with 17.000 streams it will take a bit of time to fix errors.

One of the problems is that some stream types are listed inccorectly. When the stream type is changed they work. I am working on it.

 

Best Regards,

William

 

 
Posted by penbex Message # 10     Posted at April 12, 2010, 8:29 pm,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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Quote:
Thanks,
I’m testing kw-1004-2.0.0.15 and it’s working well. But I have a couple of questions.
How can I learn about the different things in the new firmware?

In 2.0.0.15 one of the new things is that a stream can continue to play while you are navigating to other menu options. This was not possible in the 1.xx versions.

 

 
Posted by hertzblut Message # 11     Posted at January 8, 2011, 7:42 am,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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Hi I have the same Watson CO1790MUI.

The Kw-1004-2.0.0.15 Firmware works very well, but I have the same problem with German radio station. All lot of errors.
I made a downgrade KW-1004-1.0.3.29 and a online Update to S Ver: KW-1004-1.0.3.62 build 09/12/08-1744, it works fine.

After installing KW-1004-2.0.0.15 i cant make a online Firmware Update to the original firmware, is this correct?

Is it possible to use the firmware KW-1004-2.0.0.15, becaus the Podcast function is very nice, and use the original original radio station list from Watson?

thanks for you help and this is a very good forum

best regards

hertzblut

 
Posted by penbex Message # 12     Posted at January 18, 2011, 9:20 am,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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Quote:
The Kw-1004-2.0.0.15 Firmware works very well, but I have the same problem with German radio station. All lot of errors.
I made a downgrade KW-1004-1.0.3.29 and a online Update to S Ver: KW-1004-1.0.3.62 build 09/12/08-1744, it works fine.

After installing KW-1004-2.0.0.15 i cant make a online Firmware Update to the original firmware, is this correct?

Is it possible to use the firmware KW-1004-2.0.0.15, becaus the Podcast function is very nice, and use the original original radio station list from Watson?

Hello,

You should be able to load any KW-1004 firmware from an USB stick or SDCard. So you can go back and forth between firmwares. There is no need for online updates.

It is correct that once you have loaded a modified firmware you can not do an online update to an newer official firmware.
This is blocked on purpose because:
a) you can always load an official firmware manually.
b) Penbex made it possible to have an automatic update which means you could go from a modified version to an official version without really knowing it.
Currently you have full control over your radio, now imagine Penbex automatically loads something new and close all doors withthe update so you have no more way to update yourself..

If you want you can grab the latest official firmware from the download area. This gives you just the new firmware with podcast support and it uses the official Penbex database.

I do have to tell you that the official Penbex German radio list is not that great either lots of dead links as well.
Note that the database here has a bunch of stations that will not play (like AAC streams that the Penbex radio can not handle but some other deivces we support can)

There is a simple solution to dead links that and this is what the modified firmware and this server is meant for.. Modify them yourself so that they work again!
If everyone does that the database will be great. I spend a lot of time correcting streams myself but there is only so much spare time and I also want to play a bit with the hardware and the modifications..
The whole idea is to have control by the community and not by a manufacturer that fails to release new firmwares. In fact Penbex only seems to make firmwares for new models and abandon the ones they have shipped out.


The official Penbex list is something that can not be controlled. When you request modifications it can take a long time and in some cases you never hear back. The database you have here with the modified firmware can be controlled by yourself. You can:
a) modify station details in the general database (I need to give you moderator rights for that but anyone who asks get that)
b) add stations directly to your private list. Only you will see them and you have full control over that. You can even make links to your home server etc.

Best Regards,
William

 
Posted by marginal Message # 13     Posted at November 30, 2012, 8:48 pm,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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Quote:

>What alternative firmware can I use? It doesn’t find any upgrades online. Also can I change the site >sttion.penbex.com.tw with a different one like this one?

kw-1004-1.0.3.67.zip

kw-1004-2.0.0.15.zip

Both of them will work in your radio. Download a firmware, put it on a USB stick and do the firmware upgrade from the menu. Once you have loaded one of these firmwaes, you are no longer using the penbex site but you will be using our site. (remember that you can always go back to the original Penbex firmware)

>Also can I manually add new stations with, for example, an USB?

There is no way to load new stations manually through USB or so..  However, you can add new stations on this website if its not already listed (we have like 3 times more than Penbex) and add them to "My favorites" to get them in a seperate section on your radio. Once its there you can also store it as one of the 10 favorite presets that the radio has.

Best Regards,

William


(Last Edited: April 11, 2010, 10:44 pm)
Hello.

When I try to download the file, I get the following error message: "
Cannot Open File!".
Please help.

Thanks.
 
Posted by muticek Message # 14     Posted at April 9, 2013, 10:07 pm,     subject: Additional stations request  
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Thank you for 2.0 firmware.

However I did not find several stations, that are available on other systems.

Would it be possible to add:

Czech Republic: Radio Humor (aka AB Humor). It is listed, but does not play.

Canada: AM740 -Zoomer Radio

FM88.5 Jewel. Also listed but bad link?

TIA,

muticek


 
Posted by penbex Message # 15     Posted at April 10, 2013, 6:51 am,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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Quote:

However I did not find several stations, that are available on other systems.

Would it be possible to add:

Czech Republic: Radio Humor (aka AB Humor). It is listed, but does not play.

Canada: AM740 -Zoomer Radio

FM88.5 Jewel. Also listed but bad link?

Hi, if a station is listed and not working there are a number of options:
- the stream is dead, station changed the URL
- the stream works but not on your device. (for example your device does not support AAC streams)
- the stream works but settings for your device are not correct. On the SkyTC based devices the stream url is given to "mplayer" which is the core media player software for these devices. It handles everything related to the stream and recognizes whatever it needs to recognize.. The Penbex devices are using a very basic audioplayer and it has to be told what type the stream is. In some cases it even needs to be told 'íncorrectly' to work.. :/
There are 5 or 6 entries for Radio Humor, did none of them work?

I updated Zoomer. Try this  http://www.listenlive.nl/show.php?id=19901

The Jewel url seems to be correct but either is geographically blocked or is down for technical reasons. All URL's I have are not functioning.
The only thing that does play is the popup player on their website.This is however a flash player that uses rtmp://69.55.59.91/live which probably needs some settings from the flash app to get the stream playing. rtmp streams are also not supported on Penbex devices.



 

 

 
Posted by kevinLo Message # 16     Posted at April 10, 2013, 10:09 am,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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I updated something,maybe someone updated others,now 6 entries for Radio Humor are working on Skytc(LookeeTV 7 inch).
 
Posted by kevinLo Message # 17     Posted at April 10, 2013, 10:51 am,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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I added

rtsp://streamer5.evanovradio.com/live/CKDXFM

for  "88.5 The Jewel rtsp"   http://www.listenlive.nl/show.php?id=34979

the stream can be played in VLC,but it cann't be played in Skytc(lookeetv).

 
Posted by muticek Message # 18     Posted at May 1, 2013, 11:06 pm,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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Hi,

When you say "I added", what does it mean? Can you post a new firmware that has those additions?

The 3 stations I asked for do play on all other IRadios I have (Sanyo, Aluratek and several Android Tablets and iPod), but not on my Centrios.

Centrios CAN record. It would be great if it played these.

I see Radio Humor listed twice. One says "Station not available", the other tries to connect, but in about 2 seconds fails.

That even with cable, not wifi.

Any suggestions?

TIA,

Muticek

 
Posted by kevinLo Message # 19     Posted at May 2, 2013, 5:47 am,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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Hello muticek

Internet Radio > Europe > Czech Republic >

Radio Humor , all 6 entries work in Skytc device(LookeeTV 7 inch and Aigo E811).

 

Internet Radio > North America > Canada > Ontario >

CFZM-AM 740 (Zoomer Radio) ,  it work in Skytc device(LookeeTV 7 inch and Aigo E811).

 

Internet Radio > North America > Canada > Ontario >
88.5 The Jewel rtmp    it work in Skytc device(LookeeTV 7 inch and Aigo E811).
88.5 The Jewel rtsp     it cannot work in Skytc device(LookeeTV 7 inch and Aigo E811).

 

I have not a Penbex Radio,so your device(Penbex Radio or others) maybe will get a different result.

 

Best regards

kevinLo from China

 
Posted by SandMan Message # 20     Posted at May 21, 2013, 6:51 am,     subject: What is this Penbex Radio device?  
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Hello!
Which file of Modified Firmwares for Penbex devices is for OLYMPIA WEB RADIO 300?
Thanks